Don't Beat Yourselves Up!

          Yesterday we had another birthday in our home. My third child turned 13! I have three teenagers in my house. Holy cow! This led me to thinking about the early days of parenting versus the teen years. Does it really matter how they came into the world? Did sleeping arrangements or feeding methods affect anything?? Was it worth the stress now that they're older? Let's play a fun game called Match The Kid!

       A.   This child was the 21.5 hour labor where I received an epidural 4 hours before birth. We also had pitocin. Said child slept with us, was breastfed for 16 months, but also had formula.

       B.   Next child was a 12 hour completely natural labor and birth. Child was breastfed for three months and then put on formula. Baby slept with us most of the time.

        C.  Last child was a 6 hour completely natural labor and birth. This one was breastfed for 18 months, but given formula on occasion. Baby also slept with us.

          Now that you know those little tidbits, I'll tell you about each child.

        1.  This child is very sweet, loves their siblings, gets straight A's, listens 99% of the time. Has only ever had one health problem. Child is very respectful and helpful.

        2.  Next child can be moody, but is generally an angel. Get's B's. Is helpful towards older adults and seniors. No health issues, healthy as can be. Respectful when not moody.

         3. Next child can also be moody, but an angel as well 99% of the time. Gets straight A's. No health problems. Very helpful and respectful, also when not moody.


So, going with what mothers are told and fed about birth and trivial parenting decisions, I'm here to say it doesn't matter. Our kids will become who they become due to not only their personalities, but in how we actually raise them. What are you TEACHING them? How do you TREAT them?? That is where it all lies. If your child feels loved, accepted, and supported you're going to have an awesome kid! If you put your child down, don't show love, or treat them horribly you are going to be in for a huge rude awakening.

All of our kids are going to go through stages where they test the waters and, I believe, this also plays a part in who they turn into. Your reaction and behavior will determine the severity of these tests. We don't have to be doormats, but we also can't be doorstops. Sometimes we have to seriously lay down the law regardless, but many of the things kids do aren't really worth getting into it with them over. Have you ever heard the term "Pick your battles"? In child-rearing, this is vital.

Next time you berate yourself for not doing what the sanctimommies tell you that you should do, walk into a high school and try to pick out the children who were birthed or fed certain ways. I promise, you won't be able to tell!

A Cesarean.......... The horrors

I have been wanting to address feminism and childbirth, but the words aren't coming to me right now. So, while I'm laid up here, I wanted to discuss something that has somewhat impacted me recently. 

Just the day before yesterday, a beloved blogger shared with us that her daughter was in labor and soon her grandchild would be born. Many of us have watched the joy of this impending birth for months! So here they are, moms in labor, goal is to stay home as long as possible and have a natural birth in the hospital. The outpouring of love and support just rolled in. We were given updates and had pictures shared so we were kind of a part of this joyous occasion. 

However, after 30 hours of labor, there was a need for a c-section. This development brought out the bitchiness in "supportive" women. One woman made a remark about how the mother gave up and decided to have a c-section. Holy hell. Had she not been watching the page as this labor unfolded?? Had she not seen the photos of mom on a birth ball?? Seriously? Mary's labor was 18 hours and it sucked. I can't even imagine 30 hours!! Some women have decided they want to play armchair obstetrician and question why mom had a c-section. I'm wondering why in the heck anyone thinks it is their business why this mother had a c-section! Another woman even asked if the babies size or head had something to do with it and asked if the babies head had molding (I'm assuming to prove position issues or CPD). 

Yes, some women remarked about how sad this was. Others have tried pulling the "ZOMG, she's going to have emotional issues and not bond with her baby because I didn't bond with my c-section baby" crap. That angers me. This mother has just given birth. She does not need a bunch of birth junkies trying to tell her she should feel badly for her baby's birth and she won't bond with her baby! We wonder why moms have PPD like they do these days! Look at how new mothers are treated in the NCB movement. I have heard from many women that they were fine with their child's birth until they got involved with the movement and that does include myself. Why is it so important to make mothers feel so badly?? 

Who really cares about how a baby is born as long as it is alive and well?? If a c-section is needed, then it's needed. Let's leave these women alone and let them enjoy their new babies and new families without your issues! It is nobody's business why a c-section is performed except for that mother and doctors and whoever they include in that medical decision!! 

A Cesarean.......... The horrors

I have been wanting to address feminism and childbirth, but the words aren't coming to me right now. So, while I'm laid up here, I wanted to discuss something that has somewhat impacted me recently. 

Just the day before yesterday, a beloved blogger shared with us that her daughter was in labor and soon her grandchild would be born. Many of us have watched the joy of this impending birth for months! So here they are, moms in labor, goal is to stay home as long as possible and have a natural birth in the hospital. The outpouring of love and support just rolled in. We were given updates and had pictures shared so we were kind of a part of this joyous occasion. 

However, after 30 hours of labor, there was a need for a c-section. This development brought out the bitchiness in "supportive" women. One woman made a remark about how the mother gave up and decided to have a c-section. Holy hell. Had she not been watching the page as this labor unfolded?? Had she not seen the photos of mom on a birth ball?? Seriously? Mary's labor was 18 hours and it sucked. I can't even imagine 30 hours!! Some women have decided they want to play armchair obstetrician and question why mom had a c-section. I'm wondering why in the heck anyone thinks it is their business why this mother had a c-section! Another woman even asked if the babies size or head had something to do with it and asked if the babies head had molding (I'm assuming to prove position issues or CPD). 

Yes, some women remarked about how sad this was. Others have tried pulling the "ZOMG, she's going to have emotional issues and not bond with her baby because I didn't bond with my c-section baby" crap. That angers me. This mother has just given birth. She does not need a bunch of birth junkies trying to tell her she should feel badly for her baby's birth and she won't bond with her baby! We wonder why moms have PPD like they do these days! Look at how new mothers are treated in the NCB movement. I have heard from many women that they were fine with their child's birth until they got involved with the movement and that does include myself. Why is it so important to make mothers feel so badly?? 

Who really cares about how a baby is born as long as it is alive and well?? If a c-section is needed, then it's needed. Let's leave these women alone and let them enjoy their new babies and new families without your issues! It is nobody's business why a c-section is performed except for that mother and doctors and whoever they include in that medical decision!! 

Our survey, more in depth

If you have filled out the survey and do not want me using your loss as a case, contact me and give me your info and I will take it out. My goal is not to exploit anyone's loss. I only wish to learn from them. I do not want my loss exploited, but, I do wish to share so that I can help someone else avoid the tragedy we have lived through. Nobody should have to bury their child. I also have to live with the guilt of knowing my choice to use this "experienced and trained" midwife led to my daughter's death. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.



Respondent 1

Had Care from a DR, CPM, and Peri
Had 1st trimester bleeding and an unlisted issue
Had an induced vaginal delivery in the hospital at 34 weeks
Neonatal Loss due to Bilateral Renal Agenesis
Delivered by a DR in the hospital



Respondent 2

Had care from a DR
Pregnancy had no issues
Had an emergency c-section at 26 weeks due to fetal decels
Stillbirth due to Genetic Issues incompatible with life
Delivered by a DR in the hospital



Respondent 3

Had care from a CNM
Had Hypertension and Intrauterine Growth Retardation
Induced Vaginal birth at 40+ weeks
Stillbirth due to Placental Insufficiency and Pregnancy Induced Hypertension
Delivered by CNM in the hospital

Respondent 4

Had dual care from a DR and CNM
Had Hypertension, Bleeding in the 1st trimester, Pre-eclampsia, and an unlisted issue
Augmented vaginal delivery at 36 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Negligent DR, Infection, and Hep B Vaccine Reaction
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 5

Had care from a DR
Had Gestational Diabetes
Vaginal Delivery at 40+ weeks
Unsure if this was a Stillbirth or Neonatal loss but loss is due to Infection
Delivered by an OB (had to of been hospital as mother had a vaccum delivery and IV meds)

Respondent 6

Had care from a DR
Had Hypertension and Pre-Eclampsia
Elective C-section at 37 weeks
Neonatal loss due to unknown reasons
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 7

Had care from a DR, CPM, DEM, and Peri
Had unexplained bleeding in the first and second trimesters
Vaginal delivery at 22 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Prematurity
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 8

Had care from a CPM
No issues in the pregnancy
C-section at 40+ weeks (baby stopped moving)
Neonatal Loss due to Negligent Midwife
Delivered by an OB in the hospital

Respondent 9

Had care from a DR and Peri
Had an unlisted issue
PROM leading to Vaginal birth at 23 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Prematurity, Infection, Brain Damage from birth, NICU acquired illness, and Severe Critical Illness
Hospital delivery

Respondent 10

Had care from a DR
Had Incompetent Cervix and an Unlisted issue
Vaginal Delivery at 20 weeks
Neonatal Loss due to prematurity
Delivered by Respondent 10 at home

Respondent 11

Had care from a LM
No pregnancy issues
Elective c-section at 40+ weeks after homebirth transfer
Stillbirth due to unexplained issues
Delivered by a DR at the hospital

Respondent 12

Had care from a CNM
Had Advanced maternal Age
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillbirth with Unexplained issues
Delivered at home by Respondent 12's SO

Respondent 13

Had care from a DR
Had an unlisted issue
Induced vaginal delivery at 26 weeks
Stillbirth due to Clotting disorder
Delivered in a Birth Center by DR

Respondent 14

Had care from a DR
Had an unlisted issue
Vaginal Delivery at 24 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Negligent DR, Prematurity, and NICU acquired illness
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 15

Had care from a DEM
Had an unlisted issue
C-section at 40+ weeks after homebirth transfer
Stillborn due to Uterine Rupture, Negligent Midwife, read mother's HR for babies
Hospital delivery by a DR

Respondent 16

Had care from a CNM
Had Incompetent Cervix, Advanced maternal Age, and an unlisted issue
Augmented Vaginal delivery at 20 weeks
Stillborn due to Incompetent Cervix, GBS+, and Placental infection
Hospital delivery by a DR

Respondent 17

Had dual care with a DR and CNM
Had Gestational Diabetes, Excess Amniotic Fluid, and Preeclampsia
C-section at 36 weeks with breech baby
Neonatal loss due to genetic issues
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 18

Had care from a DR
Had Placenta Accreta
C-section at 32 weeks after trauma from a car accident
Neonatal Loss due to brain damage suffered after car accident
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 19

No Prenatal Care
Had an Unlisted issue
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillborn due to a cord accident
Delivered at home by Respondent 19

Respondent 20

Had care from a LM
Had an Unlisted issue
Vaginal delivery at 20 weeks
Neonatal loss due to prematurity
delivered at home by Respondent 20

Respondent 21

Had care from a DR
Had more than 5 previous pregnancies, Excess amniotic fluid, Unexplained 1st and 2nd trimester bleeding, and an unlisted issue
Augmented vaginal delivery at 36 weeks
Stillborn due to placental abruption
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 22

Had care from a DR
No pregnancy issues
Vaginal delivery at 39 weeks
Stillborn due to a cord accident
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 23

Had care from a DR
Had an Unlisted issue
Elective C-section at 40+ weeks
Neonatal loss due to multiple genetic anomolies
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 24

Had care from a DR
Had no issues
Emergency C-section due to prolonged labor at 40+ weeks
Neonatal loss due to Negligent DR, Infection, and Meconium Aspiration
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 25

Had dual care from a DR and CNM
Had no issues
Induced vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillborn due to unknown reasons
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 26

Had dual care from a DR and CNM
Had Incompetent Cervix
Augmented Vaginal Delivery at 22 weeks
Neonatal loss due to prematurity
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 27

Had dual care from a DR and Peri
Had an unlisted issue
Induced Vaginal Delivery at 30 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Unexplained, slight velementous cord insertion, low-ish amniotic fluid, slightly enlarged placenta, slightly enlarged cord
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 28

Had care from CNM
Had no issues
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillbirth due to unknown reasons
Delivered by a CNM in the hospital

Respondent 29

Had care from a CPM
Had more than 5 previous pregnancies, unexplained 2nd trimester bleeding, excess amniotic fluid
Vaginal Delivery at 36 weeks
Neonatal Loss due to negligent midwife, prematurity
Delivered by Respondent 29's SO at home

Respondent 30
Had DR care
No pregnancy issues
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillborn or neonatal death after fetal distress, Negligent DR
Delivered by an OB

Respondent 31
Had CPM care
No known pregnancy issues
C-section at 39 weeks due to non reassuring NST
Neonatal death due to suspected cord accident, low fluid may have played a part
Delivered by OB

So far, the count is

12 OB 3 low risk

4 CNM 1 low risk

3 CPM 2 low risk

1 DEM

2 LM 1 low risk

1 Nobody

2 DR/Peri

4 DR/CNM 1 low risk

1 DR/CPM

1 DR/DEM/CPM/Peri

HB Transfers: 4

HB Deaths: 6

1 39 ND

1 39 SB

2 40+ ND

4 40+ SB

These are all healthy babies from low risk pregnancies. Yikes! I would say your baby has a higher chance of death once you hit 40 weeks, no matter who your provider is.

Our survey, more in depth

If you have filled out the survey and do not want me using your loss as a case, contact me and give me your info and I will take it out. My goal is not to exploit anyone's loss. I only wish to learn from them. I do not want my loss exploited, but, I do wish to share so that I can help someone else avoid the tragedy we have lived through. Nobody should have to bury their child. I also have to live with the guilt of knowing my choice to use this "experienced and trained" midwife led to my daughter's death. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.



Respondent 1

Had Care from a DR, CPM, and Peri
Had 1st trimester bleeding and an unlisted issue
Had an induced vaginal delivery in the hospital at 34 weeks
Neonatal Loss due to Bilateral Renal Agenesis
Delivered by a DR in the hospital



Respondent 2

Had care from a DR
Pregnancy had no issues
Had an emergency c-section at 26 weeks due to fetal decels
Stillbirth due to Genetic Issues incompatible with life
Delivered by a DR in the hospital



Respondent 3

Had care from a CNM
Had Hypertension and Intrauterine Growth Retardation
Induced Vaginal birth at 40+ weeks
Stillbirth due to Placental Insufficiency and Pregnancy Induced Hypertension
Delivered by CNM in the hospital

Respondent 4

Had dual care from a DR and CNM
Had Hypertension, Bleeding in the 1st trimester, Pre-eclampsia, and an unlisted issue
Augmented vaginal delivery at 36 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Negligent DR, Infection, and Hep B Vaccine Reaction
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 5

Had care from a DR
Had Gestational Diabetes
Vaginal Delivery at 40+ weeks
Unsure if this was a Stillbirth or Neonatal loss but loss is due to Infection
Delivered by an OB (had to of been hospital as mother had a vaccum delivery and IV meds)

Respondent 6

Had care from a DR
Had Hypertension and Pre-Eclampsia
Elective C-section at 37 weeks
Neonatal loss due to unknown reasons
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 7

Had care from a DR, CPM, DEM, and Peri
Had unexplained bleeding in the first and second trimesters
Vaginal delivery at 22 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Prematurity
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 8

Had care from a CPM
No issues in the pregnancy
C-section at 40+ weeks (baby stopped moving)
Neonatal Loss due to Negligent Midwife
Delivered by an OB in the hospital

Respondent 9

Had care from a DR and Peri
Had an unlisted issue
PROM leading to Vaginal birth at 23 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Prematurity, Infection, Brain Damage from birth, NICU acquired illness, and Severe Critical Illness
Hospital delivery

Respondent 10

Had care from a DR
Had Incompetent Cervix and an Unlisted issue
Vaginal Delivery at 20 weeks
Neonatal Loss due to prematurity
Delivered by Respondent 10 at home

Respondent 11

Had care from a LM
No pregnancy issues
Elective c-section at 40+ weeks after homebirth transfer
Stillbirth due to unexplained issues
Delivered by a DR at the hospital

Respondent 12

Had care from a CNM
Had Advanced maternal Age
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillbirth with Unexplained issues
Delivered at home by Respondent 12's SO

Respondent 13

Had care from a DR
Had an unlisted issue
Induced vaginal delivery at 26 weeks
Stillbirth due to Clotting disorder
Delivered in a Birth Center by DR

Respondent 14

Had care from a DR
Had an unlisted issue
Vaginal Delivery at 24 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Negligent DR, Prematurity, and NICU acquired illness
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 15

Had care from a DEM
Had an unlisted issue
C-section at 40+ weeks after homebirth transfer
Stillborn due to Uterine Rupture, Negligent Midwife, read mother's HR for babies
Hospital delivery by a DR

Respondent 16

Had care from a CNM
Had Incompetent Cervix, Advanced maternal Age, and an unlisted issue
Augmented Vaginal delivery at 20 weeks
Stillborn due to Incompetent Cervix, GBS+, and Placental infection
Hospital delivery by a DR

Respondent 17

Had dual care with a DR and CNM
Had Gestational Diabetes, Excess Amniotic Fluid, and Preeclampsia
C-section at 36 weeks with breech baby
Neonatal loss due to genetic issues
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 18

Had care from a DR
Had Placenta Accreta
C-section at 32 weeks after trauma from a car accident
Neonatal Loss due to brain damage suffered after car accident
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 19

No Prenatal Care
Had an Unlisted issue
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillborn due to a cord accident
Delivered at home by Respondent 19

Respondent 20

Had care from a LM
Had an Unlisted issue
Vaginal delivery at 20 weeks
Neonatal loss due to prematurity
delivered at home by Respondent 20

Respondent 21

Had care from a DR
Had more than 5 previous pregnancies, Excess amniotic fluid, Unexplained 1st and 2nd trimester bleeding, and an unlisted issue
Augmented vaginal delivery at 36 weeks
Stillborn due to placental abruption
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 22

Had care from a DR
No pregnancy issues
Vaginal delivery at 39 weeks
Stillborn due to a cord accident
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 23

Had care from a DR
Had an Unlisted issue
Elective C-section at 40+ weeks
Neonatal loss due to multiple genetic anomolies
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 24

Had care from a DR
Had no issues
Emergency C-section due to prolonged labor at 40+ weeks
Neonatal loss due to Negligent DR, Infection, and Meconium Aspiration
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 25

Had dual care from a DR and CNM
Had no issues
Induced vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillborn due to unknown reasons
Delivered in the hospital by a DR

Respondent 26

Had dual care from a DR and CNM
Had Incompetent Cervix
Augmented Vaginal Delivery at 22 weeks
Neonatal loss due to prematurity
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 27

Had dual care from a DR and Peri
Had an unlisted issue
Induced Vaginal Delivery at 30 weeks
Neonatal loss due to Unexplained, slight velementous cord insertion, low-ish amniotic fluid, slightly enlarged placenta, slightly enlarged cord
Delivered by a DR in the hospital

Respondent 28

Had care from CNM
Had no issues
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillbirth due to unknown reasons
Delivered by a CNM in the hospital

Respondent 29

Had care from a CPM
Had more than 5 previous pregnancies, unexplained 2nd trimester bleeding, excess amniotic fluid
Vaginal Delivery at 36 weeks
Neonatal Loss due to negligent midwife, prematurity
Delivered by Respondent 29's SO at home

Respondent 30
Had DR care
No pregnancy issues
Vaginal delivery at 40+ weeks
Stillborn or neonatal death after fetal distress, Negligent DR
Delivered by an OB

Respondent 31
Had CPM care
No known pregnancy issues
C-section at 39 weeks due to non reassuring NST
Neonatal death due to suspected cord accident, low fluid may have played a part
Delivered by OB

So far, the count is

12 OB 3 low risk

4 CNM 1 low risk

3 CPM 2 low risk

1 DEM

2 LM 1 low risk

1 Nobody

2 DR/Peri

4 DR/CNM 1 low risk

1 DR/CPM

1 DR/DEM/CPM/Peri

HB Transfers: 4

HB Deaths: 6

1 39 ND

1 39 SB

2 40+ ND

4 40+ SB

These are all healthy babies from low risk pregnancies. Yikes! I would say your baby has a higher chance of death once you hit 40 weeks, no matter who your provider is.

Survey Statstics

I will update these as I can. If you haven't filled out the loss survey, please do so. Thank you to all of you who have filled this out and allowed us to know the real statistics!

I'm not going to look at biased sites at all. I will NOT go fishing on various sites either. Mothers are free to come here and share if they choose to. I'm tired of the homebirth vs hospital crap. Yes, some midwives are horrific, and my daughter's loss of life is proof. Yes, some dr's suck as well. I want there to be a place to get real statistics that will not be silenced because it doesn't jive with agendas. I have no agenda but truth. This will be updated as the survey is filled out!

Out of 28 respondents
Prenatal Care:::
10 Had a DR for prenatal care
5 Had dual care with a DR and CNM
4 Had a CNM for prenatal care
2 Had Care from a CPM
1 Had care from a DR and Peri
2 Had care from a LM
1 Had no Prenatal Care
1 Had care from a DR, CPM, and Peri
1 Had care from DR, DEM, CPM, and Peri
1 Had care from a DEM

Home, Hospital, Birth Center:::
22 Moms had Hospital Deliveries
5 Mom had a homebirth
1 Birth Center

Hosital Deliveries:::
13 Vaginal
9 Cesareans

Cesarean reasons:::
1 C-section reulting from long labor after being induced, having EFM, scalp electrode on baby, iv meds, epidural, used forceps (said baby passed from MA, infection, and neg dr)
2 Planned c-section
1 Emergency due to car accident, started having problems, and heartrate dropped
1 Breech, Excess Fluid, and Pre-Eclampsia
1 Heartrate dropped
1 Baby stopped moving
2 Homebirth Transfer

Pregnancy Problems:::
7 No problems at all
4 Genetic Abnormalities
1 Incompetant cervix
6 Unlisted Issue
1 Lots of previous pregnancies, unexplained bleeding in the second trimester, and excess amniotic fluid
1 Lots of previous pregnancies, unexplained bleeding in both first AND second trimesters, excess amniotic fluid, unlisted issue
1 Placenta Accreta
1 Gestational Diabetes, Excess Fuild, Pre-eclampsia
1 Incompetant Cervix, Advanced Maternal Age, Unlisted Issue
1 Unexplained Bleeding in first trimester, unlisted issue
1 Hypertension, Intrauterine Growth Retardation
1 Hypertension, Unexplained bleeding in the first trimester, Preeclampsia, Unlisted Issue
1 Hypertension, Preeclampsia
1 Unexplained bleeding in both the first and second trimester
1 Incompetant Cervix and Unlisted Issue
1 Advanced Maternal Age

Stillbirth vs Neonatal:::
15 Neonatal
12 Stillbirth

Stillbirth:::
2 Cord Accident
3 Unexplained
1 Heart stopped for no reason (that could be seen) less than 24 hours before the birth. No Autopsy
1 Unexplained, slight velementous cord insertion, low-ish amniotic fluid, slightly enlarged placenta, slightly enlarged cord
1 Placental abruption
1 Incompetant Cervix, GBS+, Placental Infection
1 Genetic Issues
1 PIH, Placental Insufficiency
1 Meternal Clotting Disorder
1, Uterine Rupture, Negligent Midwife, Thought mother's HR was baby's

Neonatal:::
1 Premature
1 Meconium Aspiration, Infection, Negligent DR
2 Negligent Midwife
2 Genetic Abnormailities
3 Extreme Prematurity
1 Brain Damage resulting from impact of car accident
1 Bilateral Renal Agenesis
1 Negligent DR, Infection, Hep B Vaccine Reaction
1 Unknown
1 Extreme Prematurity, Infection, Brain Damage from Birth, NICU Acquired Illness, Severe Critical Illness
1 Extreme Prematurity, Negligent DR, NICU Acquired Illness

How mother's researched:::
23 Read Books
20 Read Articles
20 Talked to a DR
20 Online Message Boards
18 Spoke to Friends
14 Spoke to family members
14 Read Medical Studies
12 Read Blogs
9 Spoke to a CNM
6 Medical Training
4 Spoke to a CPM
4 Spoke to a LM
3 Took Birth Classes
2 Had been through it before
2 Spoke to DEM

In the women who had no issues during the prgnancy:
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a CPM
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a LM
1 Stillbirth at 39+ weeks using a DR
1 Neonatal Death at 40+ weeks using a DR
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a DR and CNM
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a CNM
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a DEM

So far I am seeing that 7 out of 29 pregnancies had no risk factors and the babies were perfect. Since 5 out of 6 stillbirths in these low risk cases were 40+ weeks, I think it is safe to assume that stillbirth definately increases once a woman hits 40 weeks.

Survey Statstics

I will update these as I can. If you haven't filled out the loss survey, please do so. Thank you to all of you who have filled this out and allowed us to know the real statistics!

I'm not going to look at biased sites at all. I will NOT go fishing on various sites either. Mothers are free to come here and share if they choose to. I'm tired of the homebirth vs hospital crap. Yes, some midwives are horrific, and my daughter's loss of life is proof. Yes, some dr's suck as well. I want there to be a place to get real statistics that will not be silenced because it doesn't jive with agendas. I have no agenda but truth. This will be updated as the survey is filled out!

Out of 28 respondents
Prenatal Care:::
10 Had a DR for prenatal care
5 Had dual care with a DR and CNM
4 Had a CNM for prenatal care
2 Had Care from a CPM
1 Had care from a DR and Peri
2 Had care from a LM
1 Had no Prenatal Care
1 Had care from a DR, CPM, and Peri
1 Had care from DR, DEM, CPM, and Peri
1 Had care from a DEM

Home, Hospital, Birth Center:::
22 Moms had Hospital Deliveries
5 Mom had a homebirth
1 Birth Center

Hosital Deliveries:::
13 Vaginal
9 Cesareans

Cesarean reasons:::
1 C-section reulting from long labor after being induced, having EFM, scalp electrode on baby, iv meds, epidural, used forceps (said baby passed from MA, infection, and neg dr)
2 Planned c-section
1 Emergency due to car accident, started having problems, and heartrate dropped
1 Breech, Excess Fluid, and Pre-Eclampsia
1 Heartrate dropped
1 Baby stopped moving
2 Homebirth Transfer

Pregnancy Problems:::
7 No problems at all
4 Genetic Abnormalities
1 Incompetant cervix
6 Unlisted Issue
1 Lots of previous pregnancies, unexplained bleeding in the second trimester, and excess amniotic fluid
1 Lots of previous pregnancies, unexplained bleeding in both first AND second trimesters, excess amniotic fluid, unlisted issue
1 Placenta Accreta
1 Gestational Diabetes, Excess Fuild, Pre-eclampsia
1 Incompetant Cervix, Advanced Maternal Age, Unlisted Issue
1 Unexplained Bleeding in first trimester, unlisted issue
1 Hypertension, Intrauterine Growth Retardation
1 Hypertension, Unexplained bleeding in the first trimester, Preeclampsia, Unlisted Issue
1 Hypertension, Preeclampsia
1 Unexplained bleeding in both the first and second trimester
1 Incompetant Cervix and Unlisted Issue
1 Advanced Maternal Age

Stillbirth vs Neonatal:::
15 Neonatal
12 Stillbirth

Stillbirth:::
2 Cord Accident
3 Unexplained
1 Heart stopped for no reason (that could be seen) less than 24 hours before the birth. No Autopsy
1 Unexplained, slight velementous cord insertion, low-ish amniotic fluid, slightly enlarged placenta, slightly enlarged cord
1 Placental abruption
1 Incompetant Cervix, GBS+, Placental Infection
1 Genetic Issues
1 PIH, Placental Insufficiency
1 Meternal Clotting Disorder
1, Uterine Rupture, Negligent Midwife, Thought mother's HR was baby's

Neonatal:::
1 Premature
1 Meconium Aspiration, Infection, Negligent DR
2 Negligent Midwife
2 Genetic Abnormailities
3 Extreme Prematurity
1 Brain Damage resulting from impact of car accident
1 Bilateral Renal Agenesis
1 Negligent DR, Infection, Hep B Vaccine Reaction
1 Unknown
1 Extreme Prematurity, Infection, Brain Damage from Birth, NICU Acquired Illness, Severe Critical Illness
1 Extreme Prematurity, Negligent DR, NICU Acquired Illness

How mother's researched:::
23 Read Books
20 Read Articles
20 Talked to a DR
20 Online Message Boards
18 Spoke to Friends
14 Spoke to family members
14 Read Medical Studies
12 Read Blogs
9 Spoke to a CNM
6 Medical Training
4 Spoke to a CPM
4 Spoke to a LM
3 Took Birth Classes
2 Had been through it before
2 Spoke to DEM

In the women who had no issues during the prgnancy:
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a CPM
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a LM
1 Stillbirth at 39+ weeks using a DR
1 Neonatal Death at 40+ weeks using a DR
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a DR and CNM
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a CNM
1 Stillbirth at 40+ weeks using a DEM

So far I am seeing that 7 out of 29 pregnancies had no risk factors and the babies were perfect. Since 5 out of 6 stillbirths in these low risk cases were 40+ weeks, I think it is safe to assume that stillbirth definately increases once a woman hits 40 weeks.